Allow me to paraphrase scripture a smidge and ask a question…

“Can anything good come from Zillah?” (see John 1.46)

The answer is a definitive YES.

Abbie Bounds, AKA Abernathy, joins me on the podcast today.

She is a fantastic leader and is an inspiration to me.

Abbie shares about something all leaders deal with, leading your team, organization, ministry forward while chaos is happening behind the scenes.

We also have a great top five for you at the end.

Hint: You’ll get jiggy with it.

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Thanks for listening.